Scientists: Geological evidence shows the Great Sphinx is 800,000 years old

One of the most mysterious and enigmatic monuments on the surface of the planet is without a doubt the Great Sphinx at the Giza plateau in Egypt. It is an ancient construction that has baffled researchers ever since its discovery and until today, no one has been able to accurately date the Sphinx, since there are no written records or mentions in the past about it. Now, two Ukrainian researchers have proposed a new provocative theory where the two scientists propose that the Great Sphinx of Egypt is around 800,000 years old. A Revolutionary theory that is backed up by science.

The study was presented at the International Conference of Geoarchaeology and Archaeomineralogy held in Sofia titled: GEOLOGICAL ASPECT OF THE PROBLEM OF DATING THE GREAT EGYPTIAN SPHINX CONSTRUCTION.

The authors of this paper are scientists Manichev Vjacheslav I. (Institute of Environmental Geochemistry of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine) and Alexander G. Parkhomenko (Institute of Geography of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine).

The starting point of these two experts is the paradigm shift initiated by West and Schoch, a ‘debate’ intended to overcome the orthodox view of Egyptology referring to the possible remote origins of the Egyptian civilization and, on the other, physical evidence of water erosion present at the monuments of the Giza Plateau.

Sphinx

According to Manichev and Parkhomenko:

“The problem of dating the Great Egyptian Sphinx construction is still valid, despite of the long-term history of its research. Geological approach in connection to other scientific-natural methods permits to answer the question about the relative age of the Sphinx. The conducted visual investigation of the Sphinx allowed the conclusion about the important role of water from large water bodies which partially flooded the monument with formation of wave-cut hollows on its vertical walls.”

“The morphology of these formations has an analogy with similar such hollows formed by the sea in the coastal zones. Genetic resemblance of the compared erosion forms and the geological structure and petrographic composition of sedimentary rock complexes lead to a conclusion that the decisive factor of destruction of the historic monument is the wave energy rather than sand abrasion in Eolian process. Voluminous geological literature confirms the fact of existence of long-living fresh-water lakes in various periods of the Quaternary from the Lower Pleistocene to the Holocene. These lakes were distributed in the territories adjacent to the Nile. The absolute mark of the upper large erosion hollow of the Sphinx corresponds to the level of water surface which took place in the Early Pleistocene. The Great Egyptian Sphinx had already stood on the Giza Plateau by that geological (historical) time.”

A strong argument was made by Ukrainian scientists in regards of the Sphinx, arguments based upon geological studies which support Schoch’s view regarding the Sphinx and its age. Manichev and Parkhomenko focus on the deteriorated aspect of the body of the Sphinx, leaving aside the erosive features where the Sphinx is located, which had been studied previously by Schoch. Ukrainian scholars focused on the undulating terrain of the Sphinx which displays the mysterious pattern.

Mainstream scientists offer explanations for this sharp feature and state that it is based on the abrasive effect of the wind and sand, the undulations were formed because the harder layers of rock are better at withstanding the erosions while the softer layers would have been more affected, forming voids.

However, as noted Manichev and Parkhomenko, this argument does not explain why the front of the head of the Sphinx lacks such features. In regards to the argument made by Schoch about the heavy rain period which occurred around 13,000 BC, the Ukrainian scientists recognized Schoch hypothesis partially suggesting that the erosive features of the Sphinx go further back than 13.000 BC. Manichev and Parkhomenko argue is that the mountainous and coastal areas of the Caucasus and Crimea, which they know well, have a type of wind erosion that differs morphologically to the erosive features noted on the Sphinx. Essentially, they argue that such wind erosion has a very soft effect, regardless of the geological composition of the rocks.

The western wall of the Sphinx enclosure, showing erosion consistently along its length.  Courtesy and copyright of Colin Reader.

The western wall of the Sphinx enclosure, showing erosion consistently along its length.
Courtesy and copyright of Colin Reader.

“In our geological field expeditions in different mountains and littoral zones of the Crimea and Caucasus we could often observe the forms of Eolian weathering which morphology differs considerably from the weathering taking place on the GES. Most natural forms of weathering are of smoothed character, independent of lithological composition of the rocks.”

They continue further and explain:

“Our personal experience in scientific investigation of geology of the sea coasts gives reasons to draw an analogy with the GES and to suggest another mechanism of its destruction. Specialists-geologists, who work in the field of sea-coast geomorphology, know such forms of relief as wave-cut hollows (Morskaya Geomorfologiya, 1980). They can be one- and multi-storey. They are arranged horizontally to the sea water surface, if the coast makes a vertical wall (cliff). Especially deep wave-cut hollows are formed in precipitous cliffs built by the strata of carbonaceous rocks. Such forms of the coast relief are well-known and studied in detail on the Black-Sea coast of the Caucasus and Crimea (Popov, 1953; Zenkovich, 1960). General model of formation of the wave-cut hollows in the rocks of the Caucasian flysch is given by Popov (1953, 162; Fig. 3). In dynamics of the process of wave-cut hollows formation one can notice such a characteristic feature that the wave energy is directed to the rock stratum at the level of water surface. Besides, both saline and fresh water can dissolve the rocks.”

Manichev and Parkhomenko propose a new natural mechanism that may explain the undulations and mysterious features of the Sphinx. This mechanism is the impact of waves on the rocks of the coast. Basically, this could produce, in a period of thousands of years the formation of one or more layers of ripples, a fact that is clearly visible, for example, on the shores of the Black Sea. This process, which acts horizontally (that is, when the waves hit the rock up to the surface), will produce a wear or dissolution of the rock.

The fact is that the observation of these cavities in the Great Sphinx made the Ukranian scientists think that this great monument could have been affected by above said process in the context of immersion in large bodies of water, not the regular flooding of the Nile.

Manichev and Parkhomenko suggest that the geological composition of the body of the Sphinx is a sequence of layers composed of limestone with small interlayers of clays. Manichev and Parkhomenko explain that these rocks possess different degree of resistance to the water effect and say that if the hollows formation were due to sand abrasion only, the hollows had to correspond to the strata of a certain lithological composition. They suggest that the Great Sphinx hollows are formed in fact within several strata, or occupy some part of the stratum of homogeneous composition.

The Back of the Great Sphinx of Egypt

The Back of the Great Sphinx of Egypt

Manichev and Parkhomenko firmly believe that the Sphinx had to be submerged for a long time under water and, to support this hypothesis, they point towards existing literature of geological studies of the Giza Plateau. According to these studies at the end of the Pliocene geologic period (between 5.2 and 1.6 million years ago), sea water entered the Nile valley and gradually creating flooding in the area. This led to formation of lacustrine deposits which are at the mark of 180 m above the present level of the Mediterranean Sea.

According to Manichev and Parkhomenko, it is the sea level during the Calabrian phase which is the closest to the present mark with the highest GES hollow at its level. High level of sea water also caused the Nile overflowing and created long-living water-bodies. As to time it corresponds to 800000 years.

What we have here is evidence which contradicts the conventional theory of deterioration caused by Sand and Water, a theory already criticized by West and Schoch, who recalled that during many centuries, the body of the Sphinx was buried by the sands of the desert, so Wind and Sand erosion would not have done any damage to the enigmatic Sphinx.

However, where Schoch clearly saw the action of streams of water caused by continuous rains, Ukrainian geologists see the effect of erosion caused by the direct contact of the waters of the lakes formed in the Pleistocene on the body Sphinx. This means that the Great Sphinx of Egypt is one of the oldest monuments on the surface of the Earth, pushing back drastically the origin of mankind and civilization.

Some might say that the theory proposed by Manichev and Parkhomenko is very extreme because it places the Great Sphinx in an era where there were no humans, according to currently accepted evolutionary patterns. Furthermore, as it has been demonstrated, the two megalithic temples, located adjacent to the Great Sphinx were built by the same stone which means that the new dating of the Sphinx drags these monuments with the Sphinx back 800,000 years. In other words, this means that ancient civilizations inhabited our planet much longer than mainstream scientists are willing to accept.

Source and Reference: Geoarchaeology and Archaeomineralogy (Eds. R. I. Kostov, B. Gaydarska, M. Gurova). 2008. Proceedings of the International Conference, 29-30 October 2008 Sofia, Publishing House “St. Ivan Rilski”, Sofia, 308-311.

Ivan
Ivan is a freelance writer, editor-in-chief of ancient-code.com, he also writes for EWAO, Share Knowledge, Svemir Online and Ancient Origins.

History, Archaeology, Space and world’s mysteries are some of the topics he writes about.

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  • Joh Kri Hal

    800.000 ..sounds accurate….done some rechecking…. ajnd results fu#ing amazing!

  • Mike Luksic

    This is a great, scientific article. I don’t know about 800,000 years old, but much older than previously believed.

    • Txabier Etxeberri

      No, it isn’t there are is proof offered, just conjecture. No results of studies other than “visual investigation” and the “several studies” line is questionable: show these or lack any support to the claims this pair are making.

      Absolute idiocy.

      • Sonja G.

        Do you have some real proof that humans didn’t have the intelligence to build the sphinx? Every 10k years +/- the earth has flipped on its sides ie. the north pole becomes were the equator is.. A thought to think about that there able humans there until a such an event and the Giza area was put under water.. The trouble of passing time always causes a lack of recording history.

        • Ilovepurplehazmats

          That is not how the Earth reverses it’s poles. There is no actual flipping of the planet itself. Just Earth’s magnetic field. Also it is highly unlikely that the Sphinx is 800.000. Also there is no link to any studies. Just a crap article.

          • Timothy Wolfe

            It is unlikely it is 800,000 years old, but it’s also unlikely it’s only 3-5K years old like we still see in the textbooks. Noone knows how long we’ve been around, all we have is record based on what we’ve found in the ground so far- that being said….you might want to stop shoveling the same stuff you’ve been eating.

          • Ilovepurplehazmats

            I am guessing you were trying to respond to Sonja.

          • ForThe PeopleShow

            Pole Shift is 1 way. Earth Crust Displacement is a 2nd way.

          • Letter Head

            flipping of the planet is called excursion, because the entire belt of oceans must now revolve about 2 points on the equator.

            DERRR.

            And the hopi preserved their recollection of that destruction, even realizing it was the poles losing their stability, and, that the earth has a schuman resonance song…..brilliant primitives that they are.

          • Bob Buerkle

            No, there is a theory about crustal displacement being a cyclical event on earth. The entire outer crust literally rotates around the underlying mantle and core. It’s a fascinating, and convincing, theory. I highly recommend you check it out. It’s something entirely different than pole reversals.

        • Txabier Etxeberri

          Why are you asking me for proof? Scientists, serious ones, have determined they did. You seem to have little grasp on how this thing works or what I actually wrote.

          Humans built the Sphinx, but they did not do it 800,000 years ago as these idiots passing as scientists claim.

          That said, two individuals conjecturing while using scientific jargon, do no science make.

        • Jim Johnson

          lol. “the earth has flipped on it’s sides.” lol. see below.

          • Letter Head

            look up excursion,

            and eat your lols of ignorance.

        • Letter Head

          his proof is obviously in his inherited intelligence. 🙂
          Excursions where the pole 1/2 flips relocating to our present equator, is also quite messy.
          If he feels he is descended from a low-brained caveman, give him the bennie of the doubt eh.

  • J. B. Ferguson

    The great floods of the past are not being addressed here in this study (!?) and could easily have produced the results they have found much more recently. I still think West is the most accurate, 35k-10k year range.

  • Dennis Kilo Delta Arends

    or…. 800.000 years ago there were indeed no humans to build them, yet here they are.

    • Ilovepurplehazmats

      Since the most complicated explanation always turns out to be the correct one. Hint: it almost never is.

      • Timothy Wolfe

        who’s perception of “most complicated explanation” are we using here? It is no more complicated to believe it’s 800,000 years old and humans have cycled through a few near armageddon startover periods as it is to believe a scienfitic impossibility which has been passed off as fact in the hopes that enough people will just go along with it out of convenience. That statue- cannot have been built when modern textbooks say it was- it’s literally impossible. maybe it’s 30,000 years old- doesn’t matter, changes history just as much

  • TimothyStone

    This is why I don’t always agree with Science. I know that is such a sin here in the 21st century, but sorry, there is no way that would be possible. They need to go back and try again and this time try to get it right.

    • Txabier Etxeberri

      Hey! Don’t blame Science. there is nothing scientific here. These guys use scientific terms and some jargon, but it is all conjecture or outright bs.

  • Abriemotus Anud Gorim

    Geologists alway date the rock, not the time of first editing. It is crazy that people believe before they think twice… I am an Archaeologist and I know how to date objects and architecture correctly. 800.000 years ago, people don’t even looked like this.

    • Anton

      If you are referring to the face on the sphinx, it is likely this was re-worked in more recent times, as the head is much smaller, anthropomorphically, than the body.

      • Txabier Etxeberri

        Man, get you terminology right… you will have far more credibility that way.

        • MagicJesus

          “your”

    • LittleLuthien

      @Abriemotus Anud Gorim
      – You do not ‘know’ anything definitively about ancient objects or architecture. You only think that you know. Archaeology is almost all interpretation and conjecture. It’s not an exact science.

      • Txabier Etxeberri

        Dating rocks is a very precise and accurate scientific procedure, you know.

        • Scott Sheppard

          LOL the rocks may be old. but the building stones CUT OUT of the rocks ARE NOT!!

          • Txabier Etxeberri

            Well, the stones remain as old a ever, it is only the actual cutting that isn’t that old to begin with. But, hey! They “inspected them visually! That surely give them the advantage of “scientific research”.

          • Letter Head

            stupid comment.

          • Letter Head

            NOBODY MEASURED THE ROCKS AGE, IGNORAMOUS> learn how to read.

        • simpleton

          actually it’s not …not even carbon dating can accurately help date stuff

          • Txabier Etxeberri

            Sure, I will take you word on that…

          • Es

            You couldn’t just research it before tarnishing your credibility and embarrassing yourself with these false claims? You could have typed less into google than you typed here.

          • Txabier Etxeberri

            Pot, meet your foot on the mouth. I mean it would be useful if you followed your own advice. This is the FIRST thing that appears in GOOGLE:

            “C (the period of time after which half of a given sample will have decayed) is about 5,730 years, the oldest dates that can be reliably measured by radiocarbon dating are around 50,000 years ago, although special preparation methods occasionally permit dating of older samples.”

            So, please do go on and be an ignorant person and believe the bs spouted by these two “scientists”.

          • ForThe PeopleShow

            They don’t exclusively use carbon dating to date rocks. There are methods far more accurate to date geological formations.

          • simpleton

            Actually none of the methods used to date rocks comes close to being accurate..

          • Letter Head

            no methods were used to date rocks. straw man lame argument.

          • simpleton

            no need to insult just keep it classy and factual..what I mean is there is no scientific method used for dating purposes that is without large margins of error .

          • Letter Head

            carbon dating is only to be reliably used for a piece of wood, bone, leaf, etc. Not rocks as old as earth, and here, it was not used.

          • simpleton

            you missed the whole point .I was not just addressing carbon dating ,I was address all methods used to date objects etc… there is no scientific method used for dating purposes that is without large margins of error

        • TheHammer

          What is the oldest rock you can date?

        • LittleLuthien

          Knowing the age of the rock used, or the age of organic matter found nearby, is not, by any stretch of the imagination, an accurate or precise way of dating a man-made structure. It’s as silly as saying that the Great Wall of China must only be a few weeks old because an empty coke can and a bit of moldy bred were found nearby, or that my kitchen must be millions of years old because that’s the carbon-14 date of the granite used in the worktops. Ergo, as I said, archaeology is not an exact science, but merely conjecture.

          • Letter Head

            why are you inventing detals that the story never had?
            nobody dated the rocks.
            this is trolls conversing with one another trying to mislead comment readers.

          • LittleLuthien

            I’m not ‘inventing details’. Somebody replied to me with a claim about rock dating, so I responded to them about it. If discussing things that weren’t directly mentioned in the article gets your knickers in such a twist, though, why did you yourself post about crust displacement/excursion further down the page? That wasn’t mentioned in the article either, so by your own logic, it makes you a troll ‘trying to mislead comment readers’, too.

      • Rafael Delgado

        Excellent

    • Sonja G.

      What makes you think that a race of people would look a lion with human type of face?

    • Jim Johnson

      interesting grammar. “people don’t even looked like this.”

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  • Marc de Faoite

    Nope. 4500 years old at most. Modern humans have only been around about 200,000 years. 800,000 years ago there might have been the rudiments of language (it was around that time the whole right-handed business started), certainly mastery of fire and rudimentary tool making and upright walking were well established by then. Early humans had even managed to spread over quite a bit of the planet, in small hunter-gatherer bands but nothing points to even the remotest possibility of they type of large organized society that would have been required to build the Sphinx. Agriculture was still far off and it wouldn’t have been possible to feed the amount of people required to build the sphinx without a robust agriculture producing a sufficient surplus to allow for the amount of manpower required. There are dozens more reasons why the theory that the Sphinx is that old is untenable. It simply doesn’t hold water and even the most extreme alternative estimates on the age of the Spinx only vary from the accepted age by a couple of hundred years or so.

    • Brant Rotramel

      Only if you subscribe to the Academic Historic Dogma Story that has been permeated thorough the Educated world. That is just what you think happened. Even the most brilliant of thinkers are still only just thinking, that they know. When in fact most moments of Truth actually turn out in hindsight to be severe confusion. How can anyone possibly, truly know anything? Where were you at the dawn of civilization?

      • Letter Head

        they are implying they descend from brainless neanderthals….if the shoe fits, wear it. The comments certainly validate same.

    • Timothy Wolfe

      What we think we know about whether humans ability or civilization to do this or that only clouds scientific theory and law. We honestly have no idea who or what was on the planet- man-made structures crumble and are lost to time. we are finding new discoveries yearly that force us to look at what we thought we knew, and admit we truly have no idea. It is however old it is. Once you know it’s age, then we can figure out WHO built it. Do not use short-sighted comments like, “we had no ability to do this then” maybe we didn’t, but maybe something else did….? Or maybe what we thought was our beginnings was actually only a reset button caused by some sort of other Earth end-game

      • Letter Head

        last sentence is a gem.
        India says we’re on round 8 of destruction cycles.
        The hopi state round 4.
        the bible people believe wrongly, round 1.
        reset button…good way to say it.

      • Bob Buerkle

        Or maybe we ACTUALLY DID have the ability to do this back within histories of which we have precious little information. More and more sites are being found that boggle the people discovering them, all over the world. Generally, they become suppressed in a quagmire of bullshit bureaucracy, slowing any constructive research opportunities. Egypt is a great example. I know their sites are ancient and need to be protected, but any studies proposed are severely restricted. We need to excavate the ancient structures, found out what’s really in and underneath them, but it seems unlikely many governments will allow such a thing to happen. I still have hope though, I’m convinced that sooner or later, undeniable evidence will surface that there were multiple prior civilizations before ours, many just as or more advanced than us.

    • Ed Sosa

      Your wrong . An African American man traced his DNA at to 338,000 yearshttp://themadmanchronicles.com/2014/02/08/black-man-proves-adam-and-eve-biblical-story-is-a-lie-his-dna-dates-back-338-thousand-years/

    • sfreely

      Blah blah blah

    • ForThe PeopleShow

      You speak with FAR too much certainty based only very little evidence. How many times have we had to revise the Timeline because NEW fossils have been discovered. Yet you mention none of the anomalies of extreme age, showing technical advancement. Your date of 4500 years old is intellectually infantile given the Obvious Water weathering.

    • Stanley

      You are way off on your figures, how did you come up with such a figure as 4500 years? Read Herodotus account of his life with and what he learned from the priests in Ancient Egypt, they said they can trace their civilization back to 45 K years, read some things by Cheikh Anta Diop, it takes at minimum, over 25 K years to map the stars as we know them, Haleys comet, zodiac, stellar constellations, etc. So you must believe aliens came down and gave us all this information? Curious to know how did you come up with your estimation?

    • Commonsense doesn’t apply to this kind of suspension of reality. It’s a subset, here, of conspiracy peeps. You can site geological sandstone factoids or the latest of the best of what we know about our history. It doesn’t matter to them. As long as there’s another wacky documentation of this stupidity, they’re going to link that & say this or that.

      • Letter Head

        which kind of sandstone?

        The mother earth variety,

        or the bricks fired by men? 😛

    • D Lewis

      I agree with you! Homo sapiens have only been around about 160,000 years and even anything vaguely close to what we consider art is not anywhere near 800,000 years old. The humanoids around 800,000 years would not have resembled the Sphinx in any case.
      Maybe the scientist, being a geologist and not a biological anthropologist is referring to materials used to build the Sphinx rather the year built?

      • Letter Head

        dont you really mean to say,
        the only FOUND PROOF of art is such and such age?
        Finding proof, and actual historical truth, are quite two different things.

    • Letter Head

      you have not looked at the organic material from bosnian pyramids pushing the date of men making monuments, back to 13,000.

  • Klaus Pendolo

    Hahaha, it´s amazing how naive people are, we always suffer from the same sickness : pride. We always think, in any given era, that we know best. In 1500 they tought “Oh, in the year 1,000 they were so naive, but now, NOW we know everything, or at least most of it”. And now, in the 21 century we think “Oh, they were so naive in the 1500s”. This article can be perfectly right, maybe we got it all wrong, but our minds prefer to tell us that whatever we learned now is what is right. May I remind you of all the great minds of the 19 century that openly declared that nothing heavier than air will ever fly ? Or that the television/telephone were inventions born to fail ? Come on, get out of the “box”.

    • letter head

      Well put Klaus, those who claim to know are the most unwise of all…and pride is the beating of the monkeys chest, while smiling during a lie is the monkey bearing the teeth.

      Yes, rock originated much earlier than the creation made out of it. But the next reader saying this ignored the fact that no rock carbon dating occurred – landmark events that tie in, were used.

      But in this case, clearly the sphinx is composed of bricks, and likely
      the front portion will turn out to be some type of manmade clay cement
      tufa fired stone. Considering that the desert was previously a green
      area, and so much sand made its way there, the flood theory is much
      better also accounting for the influx of sand, and the main objectors to
      setting the date back for man would be the church like they did with
      bosnian pyramids (making their book translation look way off for
      genesis). Person below, when you say 800,000 years ago people dont even
      looked like this (sic), are you referring to things like neanderthals and
      relatives of homo sapiens? Because if you are, you are greatly misled or perhaps a science troll.
      Man has many cousins and one called the chimp or gorilla did not
      “become” man, they are merely cousin species. (No such thing as missing
      links). If you feed a chimp beef for a year, will it sprout clothing and
      a human appearance and ask you for its freedom at the zoo? Silly stuff.

      BTW
      — most scientists work for grants. When a correct answer has been
      arrived at for an archaeological issue, there is no more need to “search
      for the answer”. These denials are the work likely, of greedy
      scientists who know that the WRONG answer insures a nice long mealticket
      courtesy of the (taxpayers) who pay his grant monies…eerily similar to the state of american medicine lacking “cures”.
      AND, most of
      these monuments attributed to “carving rock” are actually sophisticated
      manmade ceramics that mimic stone but can be told apart by several
      scientific methods as manmade mixed geopolymers etc.

      • LaineeTheCat Wallace

        Ummm…the bricks were put on the Sphinx during a reconstruction to prevent more erosion of the sandstone. The Sphinx was not made out of bricks.

  • Klaus Pendolo

    Hahaha, it´s amazing how naive people are, we always suffer from the
    same sickness : pride. We always think, in any given era, that we know
    best. In 1500 they tought “Oh, in the year 1,000 they were so naive, but
    now, NOW we know everything, or at least most of it”. And now, in the
    21 century we think “Oh, they were so naive in the 1500s”. This article
    can be perfectly right, maybe we got it all wrong, but our minds prefer
    to tell us that whatever we learned now is what is right. May I remind
    you of all the great minds of the 19 century that openly declared that
    nothing heavier than air will ever fly ? Or that the
    television/telephone were inventions born to fail ? Come on, get out of
    the “box”. Just because your mind can´t hold the consequences of that idea, doesn´t mean it cannot be.

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  • bob

    dr. robert schoch said this years ago but nobody listen, who’s listen now-you can tell by looking at it that water has played a lot to the sphinx then 100,000’s years after new humans appear they built the pyamids. he said water dont it cool he was right.

  • Jay

    Finally the Truth! The history channel was right all along! Ancient Aliens Made it!

    • Nate Chrysler

      Lol… that’s about it.

    • Mike

      I agree with Henry. Scientists are really good at putting their feet in their mouths. The great Lord Kelvin stated that “heavier than air machines were impossible” just a few years before the Wright Brothers proved him wrong. Conventional egyptologists are similarly remarkably unimaginative and incapable of using their common sense. Why else would they believe that the Great Pyramid was built using copper chisels and lots of slaves with ropes and levers ? It is preposterous. The technology to build such an accurately built super monument is way beyond us today so why not simply admit it and try to find out the real truth about our deep history. The Sphinx age theory is very plausible since it uses standard analytical science to match up the erosion record and draws the only logical conclusion possible. If that conclusion is too shocking and frightening for some people to contemplate then so be it. The Egyptian King Lists speak of vast ages of time which, once again, egyptologists dismiss as mythical simply because they cannot believe that they might be true !

  • Henry

    There were humans 800,000 years ago. It’s just that our modern education tries its best to keep the lid on it. Even the ancient alien theory assumes humans weren’t around then. But more and more things pop up to suggest they were. History is not linear. Like almost everything else, it’s cyclical. We’re not the first, not the last and certainly not the most advanced!

    • ForThe PeopleShow

      Finally some rational thought!

    • letter head

      unanswered mysteries are the perpetual meal ticket of dishonest grant takers.

    • Chevalier

      This would imply we are on a course for self-destruction.

    • Night of the Lepus

      The timeline for human evolution shows humanity coming about around 2.5 million years ago. There’s no educational system that tries to keep a lid on that. History is linear, as is time. Not the most advanced? Not the most advanced what? And where’s your evidence to back that up

    • wisesteve

      but as a creationist I know the planet is no more than 10,000 yrs old

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  • Rowdie

    I think we need to be a bit cautious. I can remember a Professor almost expelling me because I said maybe there was something to the Continental Drift theory because the eastern Americas would fit so nicely into the western European and African continents. I was told in no uncertain terms and generally treated like an idiot because as they shouted “The land masses do NOT MOVE”. But heck, now we all know they do. How about the scientific theory that the human body could not survive speeds over a hundred miles per hour? Think “Galileo”, Do not jump these people who say the Sphinx is 800,000 years old. Better to see if you can qualify or disqualify them scientifically and not based on past assumptions.

  • Chevalier

    looks like a natural formation that was given the shape of a mythological creature at some point in time. the latest dating would be consistent with this.

    • Bob Loblaw

      Actually there’s a decent theory out there that it was originally not a mythological creature at all, but simply a lion which an Egyptian Pharaoh had his face carved into probably hundreds of years later.

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  • Biff Tannen

    Obviously this is a monument built by the Annunaki or as a tribute to the Annunaki if it’s that old. There is no missing link because Homo Sapiens is a genetically engineered species. We were created as a slave race to mine gold. The Annunaki used existing primates which were already evolved and adapted to the conditions on Earth as raw material. They edited the genes to create beings which were slightly more intelligent and could learn and follow basic commands and carry out tasks with opposable thumbs. The truth is in the gold we were created to mine. Human beings have always known gold was valuable, just not why it is valuable. Gold isn’t valuable because it’s shiny, gold is valuable because it’s a necessary component of radiation shielding in spacecraft. How would we have known this tens of thousands of years before attempting space travel? Someone forced us to mine gold for thousands of years before we built any civilizations ourselves. We’ve always known it was valuable, just not why it was valuable. Ancient Sumerian sites have glyphs that don’t make sense but seem to say the Annunaki created man in “pots”. I.E.:Incubators. Ancient sites in South America have yielded artifacts which resemble aircraft. Many of the most ancient civilizations were actually MORE advanced than civilizations which followed. There’s a lot of clues here. To me it’s pretty obvious where we came from.

    • mycho saniac

      sitchin describes in detail the instruction manual for making hybrid replicas, and demonstrates that these passages have survived various translations (Sumerian to akkadian, babylonian, assyrian, straight down to hebrew and the old testament (“in Our image” – plural, being a key point) -sitchin made much fun of how mainstream science confirmed one after another of his discoveries, so it is interesting that harvard just hosted a secret genome conference claiming to be producing humans from scratch within a decade

  • Yikes!

    Data gathered by the research team of Dr. Frederick Flintstone and Dr. Barnard Rubble of Bedrock University.

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  • Phillip Lindsay

    This research complements my work based upon H.P. Blavatsky – that the Egyptian sub-race is around 800,000 years old. See my essay here: http://esotericastrologer.org/?articles=time-history-re-establishing-esoteric-chronology-in-world-history

  • David Schultz

    Could it be that the granite that it is built with be what is 800,000 years old?

    • Bob Loblaw

      Seriously? You think they built the Sphinx with pre-eroded granite making sure to keep the eroded pieces together such that it looks like the thing was under water for centuries? That’s some theory you’ve got there.

    • Bob Loblaw

      Seriously? So you’re saying you think they took pre-eroded granite and limestone and carved this into it, making sure to carefully preserve the 800K year old erosion to make a monolith that looks a few hundred thousand years older than it is? That’s some theory you’ve got there.

      • LadyVonZetien

        Calm down, dude.

        • Bob Loblaw

          Did you see an exclamation point in there or something to suggest I wasn’t calm or do you just want attention but have nothing relevant to say?

          • Night of the Lepus

            Calm down Bob

          • Bob Loblaw

            Did you see an exclamation point in there or something to suggest I wasn’t calm or are you just illiterate?

          • Night of the Lepus

            Whoa calm down there Bob, you’re getting angry again.
            Stop banging on that keyboard.
            An exclamation point isn’t exclusively for anger, you’ve proved that.
            Once again Bob, just settle down, are you so confrontational when not behind the keyboard?

          • Bob Loblaw

            What makes you think people that engage you with a logical response are emotional or confrontational? Are you always incapable of forming an intelligent response, or are you just incapable of typing one?

            You think they took pre-eroded granite and limestone and carved this into it, making sure to carefully preserve the 800K year old erosion to make a monolith that looks a few hundred thousand years older than it is, but when pressed on the complete insanity of that, you say “settle down”. Did you learn that on the high school debate team? Did you also tell your teacher to “get a haircut” when they gave you an F?

            You really should let people think you’re a fool rather than opening your mouth and removing all doubt.

          • Night of the Lepus

            Relax Bobby, your inarticulate long winded deriding responses are what make you confrontational and emotional.
            Now you’re trying to say I agree with some rubbish article on a poorly published paper.
            And then out with the insults.
            If you’re trying to sound smart, quit with the copying and pasting on inane quotes.
            But Bobby, above all, just calm down

          • Bob Loblaw

            Nothing about telling someone what they’re saying is foolish, is deriding or confrontational, or emotional. You’re telling me to calm down because I don’t believe they took pre-eroded granite and limestone and carved this into it, making sure to carefully preserve the 800K year old erosion to make a
            monolith that looks a few hundred thousand years older than it is.

            Nothing about that makes me emotional or confrontational. The fact you have nothing intelligent to say, but rather say “calm down” says that you believe that nonsense, or that you believe one has to not be calm, to tell someone it’s nonsense. If you’re trying to make a point, you might want to recognize the only inane quotes are yours here. And FYI that would be deriding if it weren’t a statement of fact.

          • Night of the Lepus

            Calm down Bobby, I’m not able to write you a prescription.
            I’ve said nothing to suggest I believe any of the nonsense in this article and I don’t.
            Nor have I quoted anything.
            Trying to justify your derision by claiming it’s fact is the same as a racist saying; “coloured people are lazy, it’s not racist because it’s fact.
            If you step back, count to ten and let that red mist fade from your eyes, you might be capable of rational thinking without jumping to wild conclusions.
            My best advice for you is a cup of warm milk and get away from the internet, at least for a few minutes.

          • Bob Loblaw

            My best advice is for you to look up the word derision. Anyone quoting you here would easily find that you’re chatter to calm down is made up almost entirely of inane quotes. Derision is something said to insult, not to inform you on such a fact. Maybe if you’d pay attention in school you’d become educated enough to know the difference. Maybe if you’d take a step back, and let go of the imaginary fantasy that anyone that makes a logical fact based argument to enlighten fools, has red mist in their eyes, you’ll quit making such irrational statements.

          • Night of the Lepus

            Derision – the use of ridicule or mockery to show contempt.
            Have you some difficulty understanding?
            If you want to be petty, it would be ‘your chatter’, not ‘you’re chatter’ as in ‘you are chatter’.
            Take a break dude, you’re all together too worked up.
            I can practically see the steam coming out of your ears and the heart attack you’re headed for whilst screaming at the computer

          • Bob Loblaw

            Nothing I said was to ridicule, mock, or to show contempt. Clearly you’ve never experienced any of those as you’re too busy imagining things about people screaming and steam coming out of their ears when they tell you to get a clue. If you don’t want people to tell you get your cranium out of your posterior you should keep your mouth closed. Telling them they’re not being calm when let you know, just makes you sound like you’re huffing paint.

          • Night of the Lepus

            Please for the love of God, calm down.
            If you have any friends or family hopefully you’re a little more level headed, without the security of the keyboard in front of you.
            I certainly hope you’ve never blown your top and struck your mother

          • Bob Loblaw

            I’ve been perfectly calm this whole time despite what your childish imagination tells you. Telling people to calm down and insisting they are angry when they notify you of your foolishness is moronic, and is not a substitute for intelligent thought. See a psychologist if you don’t have someone to talk to and go talk to your imaginary friends or something if you just want attention.

          • Night of the Lepus

            Back with the insults, take a break Bobby, you’re getting riled up

          • Bob Loblaw

            None of that was an insult. When your teachers called you a failure did you take that as an insult also? It really seems like you must have or you’d know the difference.

            For reference, it would be an insult if I said I’m trying to see things from your point of view, but I can’t get my skull that far up my buttcrack.

          • Night of the Lepus

            Too many insults to count, but then you always were a little dumb Bob, probably a result of not being able to think past your anger issues

          • Bob Loblaw

            I’ve said nothing about you that you haven’t shown to be true. Telling you that you have a childish imagination, isn’t an insult as you have shown us all that this is the case. It’s an impartial observation you’ve shown to be a statement of fact. It would be an insult if I said it when you imagined something reasonable or realistic.

            It’s also not an insult to tell you that you need a psychologist if you’re imagining that someone is angry or has anger issues simply because they’ll tell you that you have a childish imagination, apparently nothing intelligent to say and just want attention.

            When someone tells you to stop acting like an illiterate goat molesting prostitute, they’re being insulting and showing anger and it’s not just your imagination. When someone tells you that you’re making moronic statements, it’s simply an observation and when they tell you that your head is up your rear, it’s a courtesy just like telling you your shirt is on backwards. If decide to call it an insult instead of removing your head from your butt, you’re just showing everyone how far up you managed to get it.

            If you’re practicing for some “cranial inversion contest”, do send us a video link of it so we can all have a laugh at you guys.

          • Night of the Lepus

            Bobby, I would never say anything about you that isn’t true. You’re an angry young man with Mammy and Daddy issues.
            Illiterate goat molesting prostitute? Now stop being childish.
            I wouldn’t send any videos to you, I dread to think what you could consider sexually arousing and I’ll not be the subject of your lascivious cravings.
            Just take a minute to calm down, wipe the sweat off your brow, stop shouting at the computer.
            You have to accept that I can’t give you the help you need. You’ll have to pay for professional counselling

          • Bob Loblaw

            So your only response to my statements of fact is more imaginary crap about me being angry and now having “mammy and daddy issues” because I take a minute to tell you that you’re an imbecile?

            So you’re again going to fail to add anything intelligent to the conversation and act like that makes you anything but a total failure that needs counseling?

            Seriously, you’re delusional rambling and projecting of emotions onto neutral statements of fact is hilarious. You should go on tour with that act.

          • Night of the Lepus

            Whoa Bob, you’re vexation is too apparent.
            You’re going to give yourself an aneurysm.
            Deep breaths now. If you have an aspirin at hand take that, it thins out the blood, your blood pressure must be at an all time high

          • Bob Loblaw

            So, still aiming to FAIL to add anything intelligent? You’re failure and inability to form original thoughts is all too obvious. You do realize things will smell better once you extricate your cranium from your rectal cavity, no?

          • Night of the Lepus

            Bob don’t bother pming me, I’m not speaking to you on Skype, we haven’t reached that point in our relationship, nor will we. I’m not sure what you’re hoping for, but I’m probably not whatever it is that you’re after. This is the second request for a video now and it’s just not my bag.
            You seem to have calmed down ever so slightly, we need to keep working on that.
            I honestly couldn’t handle your screams over skype anyway, or maybe I’m being a little naive here?
            Lets keep it to the public forums and work on your issues

          • Bob Loblaw

            So I’ll mark that down as a yes, you still aim to fail add anything intelligent. Got it.

          • Night of the Lepus

            Whoa bob, whooooooaaaaaaaaa.
            Quit with the pming, I’m not giving you videos.
            Relax and stop shouting

          • Bob Loblaw

            No, no you got it all wrong again. Come on, I know you know this one. It goes “Whoa, Whoa, Whoa your boat, gently down the stream…”

            Is your vision blurry? Perhaps you think I’m typing IN ALL CAPS? Are you on MDMA perhaps, and this dry, plain text jumps out as shouting to you? Perhaps you have Asperger syndrome and are really bad at social interaction. Either way I can’t help you.

          • Took the Red Pill

            Bob I wrote you a nice message, asking you to ignore the retards, but shitdisc removed it b/c it has a link. Here’s some nice redpilled videos for you. Scan through, and click on something that sounds interesting. Just add this at the end of a youtube address.

            /playlist?list=PLLLZ9a540kwgPSEKEA6_txniNj4IPh3QB

          • Night of the Lepus

            Whoaa now Bob, whhhoooooooaaaaaa

          • Bob Loblaw

            Do you just think that “Whoaa” is a substitute for an original thought? Is “Whoaa” going to be the subject of your Harvard dissertation? We’re all looking forward to it.

          • Night of the Lepus

            Hooold on nay wee Bob, hoold ti friggin horses.
            Whoa there, whoa

          • Bob Loblaw

            Care to elaborate?

            You’re a few pages short of a full dissertation.

          • Night of the Lepus

            Whoaaa Bob, whooooaa

          • Bob Loblaw

            “Whoaaa”?

            Did you learn that on the high school debate team too? Seriously, you’re not adding to the conversation in case you hadn’t noticed. Where you got the idea you can make such vapid statements and it be derision to tell you that it’s vapid, is beyond foolish.

          • Night of the Lepus

            Whoa Bobby, whoooooaaaa

          • mycho saniac

            whoa, dude: you’re spamming – in case you didn’t notice, you make the same exclamation four more times below (each time accompanied by unjustified personal ad hominem attacks): and all the while pretending to ignore bob’s challenge that you try addressing the issues: such persistent ineptitude just screams disinfo shill disrupting any dissemination of ‘unapproved science’ – unless you’d care to address his point?
            dare to be great!

          • mycho saniac

            what a completely irrelevant false analogy which, incidentally, just happens to be offensive and inflammatory as well – a further attempt to bury this shill’s well-documented failure to address or to even indicate any recognition of the discussion’s point – now getting poetic with the “red mist in your eyes” personal ad hominem emotional non-sequiturs in his increasingly desperate failures to throw bob off the scent of his non-presence in the discussion in any capacity other than the disruptive ‘loudest noises’ one comes to expect from trained ’empty vassals’

            should we be surprised to see these ridiculous shenanigans capped by a barrage of equally impertinent semantic evasions? “it is to deride…”

          • Took the Red Pill

            You realize you are defending a fucking retard, right?? I mean the guy did suggest that they used already eroded stone blocks, whose eroded sides would have to all perfectly align with each other in order to blend in… You’re defending that guy. The subhuman crap of the earth that we are all drowning in – The new distopian world of idiocracy we are entering… Complete with them slapping their hands on their chests, or losing in video games to small children, or watching tv and thinking its real. Why? I didn’t read any of what you wrote, so maybe you’re a retard too, who knows?

          • mycho saniac

            you are obviously psychologically projecting this “confrontational” attitude, since all you have done is cast insults while ducking the issues – bob does not sound angry at all, and in fact seems to be having a little fun with your refusal and/or inability to make a relevant contribution: perhaps you do not recognize when you are being played for the public’s amusement – will you perhaps return and actually address the point he makes just below? i rather doubt it, since you failed to respond to his repeated invitations to even try

          • mycho saniac

            it’s clearly orchestrated: the subsequent slew of ad hominem red herrings fail to deflect attention to your unsubstantiated, fabricated (and neuro-linguistic programming reinforced) alleged ’emotional’ disposition, and, tellingly, never does quite get around to addressing your cogent point about the date of construction – in fact, there is not even a pretense of summoning the nerve to actually address the issues involved in the article or discussion: this is a dead give-away that shills are burying truth

      • Jonathan Halsey

        No. What they are saying is that the Sphinx was created before the water erosion.

        • Bob Loblaw

          I didn’t suggest otherwise. I know what they’re saying. Do you know what I’m saying?

    • Jonathan Halsey

      The metamorphic rock is many millions of years old.

  • Curtis

    Thank you.

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  • John Walker

    i don’t agree a couple of years ago they took a core-sampling on top of the head and stabilized it with steel and concrete they was afraid the building structure breaks age isn’t more as 13.000 Years

    • Jonathan Halsey

      That’s all you have?

      • John Walker

        right the rock is millions of years old the discussion was about water eroding “Robert Schoch” not any rainfalls approximately before bc 8000 in this area so it is very thin evidence to say it must be caved in the ice age but saying this Lion is older as the Sumerians Kings List is completely nonsense

    • D.D

      As far as I’m aware, the sphinx has been covered up to its neck in sand for most of the last two or three thousand years at least, meaning, that very little erosion by sand or any other means of erosion would have been possible in all of that time on its body, on the other hand, the head has been very exposed and ought to be much more eroded than it is.How do you explain that?

      • John Walker

        my first answer with sources got indicated i am in the wrong Party here obviously references are not tolerated only circular reasoning with advanced self-references are accepted. so we went back to the grimm brothers fairy tales.

    • Johnathan Womack

      you forget we have more technology now than we did a couple of years ago

  • Night of the Lepus

    Bulllllllllshit

    • Jonathan Halsey

      What information do you have to dispute this?

  • Rick

    So what?

    • Jonathan Halsey

      Go back to sleep

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  • Richard

    It is about time our historic theories were abandoned and we all used logic in finding our true foundation. Although my book “We Are Our Ancestors ” is based on a near death experience, in chapter eight there are some very close assimillies that verify what is being claimed by these scientists. We must take into account that the Earth is thousands of millions of years old and we have always talked about the last six thousand years. How small minded have we been,lets now wake up. R.F.W.

    • mycho saniac

      the unmistakable wet stripe across the sphinx was caused by what we call ‘the great flood’: a periodic global cataclysm associated with sitchin’s ‘the 10th planet’ (niburu), recently confirmed under another name (‘planet 9’) and plot course by mike brown at caltech; archeologists have discovered these dark, damp stripes layered successively beneath us in regular intervals which happen to coincide with shifts in magnetic lines in rock strata indication pole shifts – anthony forwood’s ‘They Would Be Gods’ (now available free online) covers nasa’s systematic suppression of all evidence of this approaching visitor (see pp 343-4), and also examines ancient mystery schools, secret societies, monuments and technologies in the context of the nwo’s long-term plans for capitalizing on this ultimate disaster:

      They Would Be Gods

      Anthony K. Forwood

      “This book covers a wide range of controversial material, including the possibility of alien visitation and influence, the Great Pyramid and other megalithic structures, mysterious fossils, ancient legends, mystery schools and modern secret societies, the events in the Bible, lost civilizations, the hollow Earth hypothesis, recurrent planetary cataclysms, Earth energies, secret and suppressed science, human psychic potentials, mass social conditioning, and mind-control technologies. Most important of all, it reveals events that are soon to take place on our planet that will lead most of us to extermination, while the remaining survivors will find themselves in complete enslavement to a totalitarian New World Order ruled by a group who see themselves as gods.”

  • Wuz Kang

    Wonder no mo, periud.

  • mycho saniac

    the unmistakable wet stripe across the sphinx was caused by what we call ‘the great flood’: a periodic global cataclysm associated with sitchin’s ‘the 10th planet’ (niburu), recently confirmed under another name (‘planet 9’) and plot course by mike brown at caltech; archeologists have discovered these dark, damp stripes layered successively beneath us in regular intervals which happen to coincide with shifts in magnetic lines in rock strata indication pole shifts – anthony forwood’s ‘They Would Be Gods’ (now available free online) covers nasa’s systematic suppression of all evidence of this approaching visitor (see pp 343-4), as discusses ancient mystery schools, secret societies, monuments and technologies in the context of the nwo’s long-term plans for capitalizing on this ultimate disaster:

    They Would Be Gods

    Anthony K. Forwood

    “This book covers a wide range of controversial material, including the possibility of alien visitation and influence, the Great Pyramid and other megalithic structures, mysterious fossils, ancient legends, mystery schools and modern secret societies, the events in the Bible, lost civilizations, the hollow Earth hypothesis, recurrent planetary cataclysms, Earth energies, secret and suppressed science, human psychic potentials, mass social conditioning, and mind-control technologies. Most important of all, it reveals events that are soon to take place on our planet that will lead most of us to extermination, while the remaining survivors will find themselves in complete enslavement to a totalitarian New World Order ruled by a group who see themselves as gods.”

  • Michael Herson

    However old it is it sure is professionally dangerous to suggest that its older than allowed by the accepted theory. Maybe it weren’t even built by humans??

    • mycho saniac

      (from p. 309 of anthony forwood’s ‘They Would Be Gods’:)

      63: Crystals, Megaliths, and Earth Energies

      “Crystals are significant to understanding certain mysteries about the distant past, prior to our earliest known civilizations. It’s fairly well known that natural crystals such as quartz will give off an electrical charge when put under pressure. It has been further reported by author and investigator David Hatcher Childress that quartz crystals will also lose weight as pressure is applied, to the point that they will become completely weightless. If this is true, then we have a possible explanation for how such massive stones could have been safely transported long distances and placed with such precision within the largest and oldest megalithic structures that still stand today.

      “Quartz crystals are also known to concentrate and amplify energies, and this provides a possible explanation for why the ancients seemed so obsessed with tracing ley lines: apart from leading to the points where these lines cross and the energies are strongest, these lines were the paths taken when transporting these heavy objects, incorporating Earth’s energies and the natural properties of crystals into an antigravity technology. This Neolithic technology may have stemmed from memories of a much older and more advanced technology, such as was used in the flying craft described in virtually all of our oldest ancient legends.”

      the sumerian pictographs translated by zacharia sitchin, our earliest records, are crystal clear about the purposes of some of this ancient advanced technology (including space flight and genetic manipulation) and where all this came from, and the universal legends of sky beings bestowing agriculture, domestication, tools, language (all the things we’d need to serve their purpose) illustrated by the sumerians leave little room for doubt – biblical scholar sitchin’s predictions of the mixed colours of the outer planets (among many other things, including niburu) have all been subsequently confirmed by by scientists from astrophysics to biogenetics

    • Took the Red Pill

      Honestly, probably not. Definitely not. Its pretty much common sense for those who are awake.
      But saying shit like that when you are surrounded by people dumber than you? Career Suicide.
      I believe the Jeopardy tard Arthur Chu said it best. In the age of cultural marxism, you just have to silence your brain from thinking bad thoughts about the degeneracy that surrounds us. Those who fight the wave of retardation in public, are likely to get destroyed for it. But on the internet, lol, you can get a vpn and say whatever you want, and fuck the zionists who run the media.

  • Mark Dudley

    Most reputible scientists agree that it was built on an existing rock formation. Dr. Hawass hosted a National Geographic program on this wherein a team of geologists did an in-depth study on the statue. The rock could very well be 800,000 years old (or older), but it was not fashioned into a statue 800,000 years ago.

    • I completely agree with you on the fact that the rock could very well be 800,000 years old, and that it may not have been carved that long ago. However, the study makes some interesting points, wouldn’t you agree?

      • Gladger Ross Jr.

        I can believe the dates to be true! I believe that intelligent civilizations go back millions of years and it has nothing to do with aliens. African people have left there imprints in many places around the world and modern historians and scientist dont and refuse to accept this because there were no Europeans then. Europeans like to start history from when they came on the scene. Thanks for being brave and sharing this knowledge. Why do you think there was a crusade? Why do you think conquerors burned all of the books of places they conquered? To wipe out an African existence!

  • lol…

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  • Eddie Evans

    Yet, there are no fossils of sea life anywhere in the ground. This article is very convincing BS.

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